The Hateful Eight (2015)

Bundle up, because we're guiding you through Quentin Tarantino's "The Hateful Eight," a film that transforms the icy backdrop of Wyoming's Teton Range into a fiery crucible of suspense and human intrigue. As we hunker down in Minnie's Haberdashery with the likes of Samuel L. Jackson and Jennifer Jason Leigh, we'll peel back the layers of each character's motives, revealing how their twisted moral codes clash in a symphony of Ennio Morricone’s haunting score. With no stone left unturned, your appreciation for Tarantino's artistry will reach new heights as we spotlight the film's visual storytelling, underscored by eclectic soundtrack choices that transport you right into the heart of this brooding narrative.

Hold your breath as we recount the deadly dance of suspicion and betrayal within the cabin's close quarters, where tensions boil over like a poisoned pot of coffee. The psychological warfare waged by Major Marquis Warren is dissected, showcasing a masterclass in manipulation set against a backdrop of racial tensions and the bitter chill of the storm outside. The analysis doesn't shy away from the pivotal moments – including a jam session gone awry and a bloody shootout that ratchets up the stakes. With every gunshot and revelation, you'll find yourself entrenched in the complexities of Tarantino's craft, where even the destruction of a genuine antique guitar becomes a touchstone of authentic filmmaking.

As the blood-stained snow settles, we reflect on the film's poignant ending, juxtaposing the brutality of the shootout with the quiet irony of its resolution. The conversation takes a turn towards the broader implications of "The Hateful Eight," including its cinematic cousins and the divided opinions it's inspired among audiences. By the end, whether you're a devoted fan or a skeptical onlooker, you'll leave with a deeper understanding of this contentious piece of modern cinema and the powerful impact of its theatrical presentation. So, join me, Travis Dudding, for a journey that's as chilling as it is enlightening, and discover why "The Hateful Eight" stands tall in the pantheon of Tarantino's filmography.

Chapters

• 0:03 Review of "The Hateful Eight"
• 13:48 Suspicion and Interactions at a Cabin
• 19:30 Tensions Arise Over Race and Trust
• 31:32 Coffee Poisoning and Violent Confrontations
• 45:24 Bloody Shootout Ends in Betrayal
• 50:48 Negotiations and Confrontations With Gang Members
• 57:12 Discussion of "The Hateful Eight" Movie

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:03

Hello and welcome to another episode of Movies, colin. They're pretty good. I'm your host, travis Studding, and today we conclude our Set in the Snow non-Christmas movie series with Quentin Tarantino's eighth film, the Hateful Eight. So, without further ado, let's get into it. So we open on a great, beautiful shot of the Teton Mountain Range in Wyoming, which is where this takes place, and we get the opening credits over a snowy, snow-covered statue of Jesus and we get that Neomorocone score that I talked a little bit about in the Thing episode. But amazing score Like just so perfect. I even have the vinyl right here. Just a great score, very good at tension building and mood setting. It's everything that a score is supposed to do.

Speaker 1: 1:14

We see a stage coach coming from the background into the foreground and it stops for a lone man out in the snow with a pile of dead bodies behind him, and this guy is played by Samuel L Jackson. The character is Major Marquess Warren. Basically, his horse got hurt and had to put her down, her, him, I forget. But the stage coach is trying to get to Red Rock, wyoming, but there's a blizzard on their tail and this is why everybody is kind of in a hurry and needing to hitch rides and stuff like that. So, but the stage coach driver says like, hey, you got to check with my passenger. He paid for a private ride, so it's up to him really. And so he goes and talks to the passenger inside and this is Kurt Russell playing John Ruth, a bounty hunter, and his bounty, daisy Dommergou, played by Jennifer Jason Lee, and he's very like you know, has his rifle on him and everything, and he's like hey, hold it right there, like you know, put your gun down, nice and slow, and what's your business? Like what you know what's going on. And they just kind of explain the. You know, major Warren explains it to him, just like he did with the driver, but he does let him ride. And so, while he load up the bodies on top and start heading on their way and this is where we get a little more character building and backstory, all that type of stuff and we find out that that this Daisy Dommergou has a $10,000 bounty on her head and basically it's the reason that he's taken her to Red Rock is to get to hang there. You know, collect the bounty, the doctor could execute it. And then they just have this discussion on the difference between the two of them as bounty hunters, you know, because all Warren's guys are dead and she, you know he's got her shackled to himself and you know keeping her alive. And then you find out that John Ruth's nickname is the hangman, and you know, whether it says dead or alive doesn't matter, because he's gonna make sure you hang. I guess he likes to get the satisfaction of it, I guess.

Speaker 1: 4:12

But here we get a nice little needle drop, something that Quentin Tarantino's very good at doing in his movies. But this is Apple Blossom, apple Blossom, apple Blossom jeans, Apple Blossom by the White Stripes. And you wouldn't think, like in this like you know Western in the 1800s, that this you know indie rock song from the 2000s would work. But it does Like it, like I said, he knows what he's doing and he's really good at finding those ones that fit the mood, like just perfectly.

Speaker 1: 4:46

But after, like a short little montage set to that song, then we cut back to the inside of the stagecoach and, like John Ruth starts to ask like, hey, like do you, do you still have it? And he's like still have what you know, the letter, the Lincoln letter. And he's like, yeah, like I got it. And he's like, well, can I see it? And he's like has his head to let him see it. But he takes it out of his pocket and shows him the letter and you know John Ruth gets out, is like reading glasses and everything, and he's reading it and he starts to get like choked up and he reads the last part out loud. He's like Old Mary Todd's calling. He's like, oh man old. You know just like he's like very moved by this letter and you know that, as one probably would be from you know reading a letter from Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 1: 5:41

But then he like is showing the letter to Daisy who spits on it and then, after she spits on it, warren punches her, which makes her fall out of the stage coach. But she shackled to John Ruth so he flies out with her but while they're arguing and whatnot about this, and the stage coach says like hey, like there's someone else out on the road, like you know by themselves. And then now now John Ruth's like extra suspicious because he's like assuming that it's somebody who's there with major Warren and that or that it's some you know plot to to let Daisy go, and all this stuff and you know so he makes makes Warren put cuffs on which he's not too happy about, but he does like a blige. So then we meet this new stranger out on the road and it's the interest of himself as Chris Manix and that he's the new sheriff of Red Rock and he's played by a Walton Goggins. One funny line is that once he like realizes that it's John Ruth and it's major Warren, he's like, oh, y'all having some kind of bounty hunter picnic. And I just thought that's a funny line.

Speaker 1: 7:19

But we come to find out that he was part of the rebel renegades, which is a group of southerners that kept, you know, fighting after the war was over, you know so sore losers. And but we also find out that major Warren, during the civil war, had a $30,000 bounty on his head and it like slowly lessened over the course of the war, ending with like a $5,000 bounty. But you know, no one ever caught him and all that stuff. But it was put on him by the South like not just from the law, just, you know, upset southerners basically. But the reason that he had a bounty on his head is because he was in a prison camp in I forget I forget which prison it was, but basically, like to escape, he burnt the prison down, and so the Confederate army put a bounty on his head and but then, you know, we also find out that it wasn't just southerners that died, it was also Union soldiers as well, and so the he, basically he got away with it for the most part, but you know, he also got like in trouble. I mean, it's that that still happens in the military, like especially when you're an officer, you get in trouble, but not that much trouble.

Speaker 1: 9:00

So they established earlier that they weren't going to make it all the way to Red Rock because of the Blizzard. But there's a place that they're going to stop called Mini's Habitashery, where they do stop. They get there, they're greeted by someone, introduces himself as Bob, and they're like, hey, like where's Mini and sweet Dave? And they're like, oh, they're not here. They left me in charge for while they're gone. And but Bob Obi, the, the carriage driver, and then Chris and Major Warren all put the horses and the carriage away, and all that while John Roof and Daisy go inside. They have to kick the door open, like they're trying to get in, and there's like voices inside yelling like you got to kick it open. And so they kick it open, and then then they're yelling at him like you got to nail it shut, you know, and there's a lot of overlapping voices all saying the same thing. So yeah, if there's like a pile of wood and a hammer and nails next to the door, they have to nail two pieces of wood just to keep the door shut because someone broke the latch or whatever.

Speaker 1: 10:20

So John Roof's trying to get like a run down of like who's all there and so he's got to talk to like every single person, because he's already like a very suspicious person. But just the fact that he's got this famed $10,000 bounty person with him, you know he's assuming that someone's going to try to break her free. So we're first introduced to Oswaldo Mowbury and he's an English gentleman played by Tim Roth, and he's very skeptical of of John Roof and he's asking him a lot of questions and he asked to see like his papers and stuff to prove that you know that he's not just like kidnapping this woman and he shows, shows the bounty and he says that he's going to be the or is already, I forget, but he's the hangman in Red Rock. So basically you know he's the one that's going to hang her once she gets there and stands trial and everything. So now we see the other guys outside. They're putting the horses away. Ah, that's good. Those 2 girls, bob and major Warren, take care of the horses while Chris and OB make a line. Basically because there's gonna be a blizzard, they need like a Bunch of like stakes, like every ten paces with a rope inside, so that way they can like hold on to that and not get lost in the in the blizzard and basic all that stuff. So, yeah, they basically split up and two guys are doing that and two guys are doing that and they basically have a line from the, the house to the barn so they could check on the horses, and then another one from the house to the outhouse so they can go take a shit. So cut back inside.

Speaker 1: 12:12

And Oswaldo Moabry and John Ruth and Daisy are having this conversation about the difference between justice and frontier justice and he's saying that, like you know, if you know you, you know, say you're guilty, you murdered people and and this guy's bringing you to Red Rock, you stand trial, they find you guilty and I hang you. That's justice. But if the family of the victims were to come barge into this, this establishment, and Take you outside and kill you themselves. That would be frontier justice. And basically saying that the difference between it is that the, the hangman, is a, a disinterested party, basically, so there's no emotion in it. And it's like basically saying that the only difference is the absence, the absence or presence of emotion in the matter and that. But also like saying, you know, he's just getting real philosophical about it, like you know who's to say what's like actually, like yeah, in the eyes of the law, one one's right and one's wrong, but you know, morality might tell you Another. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 13:48

So then John Ruth notices the one of the other guys in the corner who's been, you know, a little quiet, and he's like, oh, I need to go talk to that guy and find out who he is. And this is a Joe gauge played by Michael Madsen, and he's been sitting at the table writing in the book the whole time they've been there. I go talk to him. He says he's writing a memoir, basically, and Says that he's on his way to Red Rock, to or no, he's going past Red Rock, but he's gonna go meet his or go stay with his mom for Christmas, basically. And and John Ruth's like, you don't seem like the meet your mom for Christmas type, and he's like, well, I don't know what to tell you because I am, because that's what I'm doing, and you know, a John Ruth's not really buying it but there's no like hard evidence To the contrary. So you know, he's kind of. He's basically just to let them know like I, I'm suspicious of you, but you know, I'm just gonna keep my keep an eye on you, basically.

Speaker 1: 14:55

So then he goes to talk to the final person inside that he hasn't got to like meet yet and as a older gentleman sitting by the fire, he goes like hey, like I Forget what he calls him, he calls him something. And he's, you know, lifts up his wrist and shows like the Insignia is like general, I was like, oh sorry, general like and but he's played by Bruce Stern. And he just like tells him straight up he's like you're a hyena and I don't want to talk to you. He's like all right, fair enough. And then you know close and leaves him alone. Then there this interactions, interrupted by Chris and OB coming back inside from the snow, and then we get the same exact like Like you got to kick it open, you got a nail it shut, you got to use two pieces of wood, you know, and everyone's just yelling like over each other. It's just complete chaos. But that will happen At least one more time.

Speaker 1: 15:59

But once those two start getting like settled in and warm and everything, chris and Mobri meet and because they're, you know, gonna be working together in Red Rock, so they get to talk and and then at some point Mobri asks Chris, like about if he has a letter from Abraham Lincoln. And they're like what, he's, like what? I don't have a letter from Lincoln. Man Mobri's like, I was told that you had a Letter from Abraham Lincoln, and he's like. And then Daisy says like no, the other guy, the, the, the black fellow. But oh, that's not what she says, but that's what John Ruth says. But yeah, you know it's not only is it a period piece that shortly after the Civil War, it's also a Quentin Tarantino film, and so the N word is used a lot, unfortunately.

Speaker 1: 17:01

Then we cut back to the, the barn outside, and Warren and Bob are putting the horses up. Warren's starting to kind of interrogate Bob because he's a little suspicious, because, because he's just suspicious of the fact that many, you know one left, and To put anyone else in charge because, like that's like her pride and joys, this establishment. But then back inside Chris Recognizes the general and is like super excited to meet him. He's like starts fan-growing out about him, I guess because he's just a big Confederate army stan, I guess, and so, yeah, he's getting all excited. Gets to talking to the general, you know, asked like why he's traveling. He's like, oh it's, you know, my, my son lived out here but he passed away and it's been a few years and I just wanted to come out here and like buy him like a nice plot of land at the cemetery and red rock and you know, that way he has like a nice burial and all that stuff.

Speaker 1: 18:06

And after all this, then Chris is like you know, let's toast to your son and goes and get some brandy from the table where Joe Gay just sitting at and and then shortly after the toast, bob and Warren come back in and then this is where we get the other time with them, like yelling at him to, you know, kick the door open and nail it shut and all that. But as Warren's like getting his coffee and getting warm and everything, he notices a piece of like a red jelly bean on the on the floor and he clocks that and he looks up on a shelf and notices that there's jars of candy With like an, an empty space where it seems like another one should be, but there isn't one. But he doesn't say anything, he just we just noticed that he notices. But he also Talks to Bob. He's like hey, like so many must have like a laxed on the no hats rule. And Bob's just like hey, like you're right, I'm not, I'm not running the place the way that she would, but since there's a blizzard, I figured, you know the, I'd let it slide on the, on the hats, and tomorrow we'll go hatless, or you know whatever. He's just kind of playing it off.

Speaker 1: 19:30

And then major Warren goes over to talk to the general, who you know, being a Confederate general, isn't too happy to be talking to anyone black, and so tensions start getting high and sees like they, these starts like yelling at him and stuff. And then I think, just to ease tensions, oswaldo is like hey, like why don't we just split the cabin in half, like this can be, like there could be the north side and the south side, and then the dinner table is neutral ground, you know, and and everyone's just like yeah, whatever, like most, most people don't care, it's basically just the general who's getting all uppity about it. And then Chris tells the general about the, the bounty on his head, on major Warren's head, like the old one that you know, and he's like that's the one, like that's the guy right there, and but then John Ruth, major Warren and Daisy is there, but and OB is like hey, like I know, like, because they had made a deal, they're like hey, like I'll help you protect your bounty if you help protect mine, you know. And so it's like alright, I know someone here is working with her. You know at least one person here, maybe two, maybe more, but I know like something, something's not right and like. So we got to trust each other and figure out who else we could trust.

Speaker 1: 21:20

So then John Ruth makes an announcement. He's like, and it just announces this is like hey, like I, I know someone is like trying to help her. So if no one wants to just come right out and say it, I'm gonna assume all of you are. So let me have your guns. You know he takes everyone's guns, you know, for the most part very reluctantly. When he's getting John Gage's gun, that's who he takes first and Warren comes up behind him and holds a knife to his neck, you know, so gets all the guns and then puts them all in a bucket. Well, first he like breaks them apart and or takes them apart and then puts them in a bucket and has OB go out in the snow and dump them in the outhouse. And well, and OB is like, well, why don't I got to do it? He's like because you still have your jacket on and you know I forget what the other reason was so reluctantly he goes and does it.

Speaker 1: 22:22

Then Bob makes an announcement saying that the stew is ready, so they start serving up. Chris is trying to talk the general to go sit at the table and eat something and he's like I'm not sitting there with and word and you know all this stuff and you know just being a difficult old racist man. And John and Daisy are having trouble eating when they're cuffed together. So John gets annoyed enough to uncuff Daisy, like just while they eat, and but says like, hey, if you try anything I'm gonna shoot you. And so they're eating.

Speaker 1: 23:01

Ob finally comes back in. He was like trying to get back in but was just like freezing and no one could hear him. But he finally gets in and like, says like I'm not going back out in that shit again, and like, pulls some cow hide off the wall and wraps himself in it and just lays down, like right in front of the fireplace and then, like Bob goes over and checks out and he's like you good, you want some stew. He's like oh, all of stew later, let me just get warm. Then they start Chris brings up the Lincoln letter and then so they're asking about it and and he's like man, do you really think that Abraham Lincoln, the president of the United States, would be like corresponding with just a soldier? You know, and you know it's just like. And then John Ruth's like defending him and everything. And then, but then Warren admits he just kind of laughs and says like, yeah, it's fake. And then most of them laugh and everything, and even Daisy's like that's a good one, warren, you know stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 24:14

Then, but then John Ruth's like super upset. He's like it's like we like that was a dirty, rotten trick. And he's like oh, what, I hurt your feelings. And he explains like hey, the only time that that black folks are safe are when white people are disarmed. And this letter disarms them. And he's like call it whatever you want, like I think it's a dirty trick or whatever. And he says something like it's something you know, super general and racist. He's like it's like you know they're right about you. People, you can't trust a word come without your mouth. And he's like hey, like it got me out, like this letter got me on that stagecoach. You know, I would have been dead if it wasn't for this letter. So, you know, think whatever you want and and I know you don't have the experience that I have to understand and you know I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but it worked, you know, and maybe you know, if you think about it, you might understand why.

Speaker 1: 25:24

So major warren gets up and gets a refill of the stew, but then gets another bowl and takes over the general and he's like hey, like you know, can I, you know you mind, like if I sit here, share a bowl of stew with you and or, you know, said something, oh, yeah. Then Chris is like hey, like you, leave him alone. And he's like hey, like I shared a battlefield with this man. And and then he turns to the general. He's like or would you deny me that too? And he's like no, I suppose you were there, but he's a little hesitant. But then, like, I guess it has like a little bit of respect for him, at least you know, and then he's always sits down across from him and then Bob goes over the piano and starts playing a silent night.

Speaker 1: 26:17

But the two of them start to talk about you know. He's like, hey, like how's life after the war? And like you know, you know it's good and you know, says that you know he had a wife and but she died. The general saying this and like, yeah, like we're both from Georgia and you know she was just a great wife and you know, just talking to like all this stuff and just about his family and everything. But then I forget who brings him up.

Speaker 1: 26:47

But warren says that he knows the general son is like what, like you know my boy and but like, since he doesn't know, like what happened to him when he died and all that, he's just like desperate for any information on that. And he's like, yeah, I know your son and I know I knew that, I know the day that he died. And he's like what? Like, like you know he. Then he gets up to walk away and the general grabs his arm, is like hey, like, like, do you really know my son? Like, and he's like you know that you know when he died. Or is like, how would you, would you like to know? And he's like, yeah, he's like it was the day he met me.

Speaker 1: 27:29

And then, right after he says you know, is the day you met me, takes a pistol out and puts it on on the chair, because earlier I forgot to mention this when, like tensions were getting high and they're yelling at each other, warren like kind of pulled his gun out or like went for his gun. And they're like, hey, like everyone's like, hey, calm down, you can't just shoot it on our man, you know, and all that stuff, and and Ruth said something, it's like, yeah, that's the thing with these old guys is you can push them down the stairs but and say that they fell, but you can't shoot him. And so you know he's starting to get him riled up and you know gave him a gun, so now he's not unarmed. And he starts to say how a bunch of people came, came up in the Wyoming looking for him because of that bounty that was on him, including the general son. And then he's talking about like how he was, you know. But you know most of those guys died because, you know, they either didn't find me and if they did find me, then they ended up dead.

Speaker 1: 28:46

And then he starts saying how, like he started like hey, like just let me go and I'll like never, I'll never come back, and all this stuff. And then he's saying how he made him strip and it was like a cold, cold day, like a cold blizzard and all this stuff, and made him strip naked and walk through the snow and all this stuff. And then how he started like begging, not for his life and or anything like that, but was just like begging for a blanket, just because he was just so cold, and that's like all he could think about. Then he says like well, he was begging and he said he'd do anything for a blanket, so I made him crawl through the snow, but you know, butt, ass naked and basically, and suck him off, you know. And but you know he's being real funny about it, like and he's, you know, just trying to get get the general worked up and he's like it's like, yeah, he's sucked on that warm black dingus and you know all this stuff. And then they basically works him up to wear the. The general grabs the gun to go shoot him, like he actually does pick it up, and you know he doesn't just like reach for it. He picks it up and aims, but then, you know, warrants way faster. So, you know, shoots the general dead. And now it's self-defense. So he shoots him, uh, and bob quietly shuts the, the lid on the piano and fade to black.

Speaker 1: 30:29

And then we get like the next, like chapter, because there's uh like chapter introductions on at the beginning of these scenes. Uh, and then this one's called Domourgoo's Got a Secret and uh, we come back on with a narration from Quentin Tarantino talking about what's going on. He's talking about how they're, you know, taking the general's body out to the snow and all this stuff. But the most important thing that gets mentioned is that, uh, while all this was going down and the generals are getting riled up, daisy or someone poisons the coffee, and daisy's the only one that saw it. So after the narration's over, daisy asks, uh, john, because she's still on coft, and she says, hey, like can I go play that guitar over there? And he's like, yeah, whatever, just don't. You know, no funny business. You know I'm still all, because I'll still shoot you.

Speaker 1: 31:32

And then, um, so she goes and picks up this guitar and starts playing, uh, a song called uh, jim Jones at Botany Bay. And while she's playing, we see, uh, john ruth goes over to the coffee pot, which we know has been poisoned and daisy knows that's been poisoned, and he pours a cup for himself and a cup for ob. She keeps playing and singing and, uh, we see both of them drink the coffee and she also notices that john drinks the coffee and kind of has like a smirk on her face. And then he comes over to her and he's like hey, like you know, that's the song you like to sing. Uh, in the carriage, huh, like it's actually kind of pretty, just have another verse. And she says yeah, and she starts to sing it. But then it starts to have like some like stuff about john and she ends with the line that says and you'll be dead behind me, john, when I'm in mexico. And then so this is like all right, that's it.

Speaker 1: 32:36

And he picks up the guitar and smashes it, and so some interesting trivia that I mean, I think a lot of people know, but maybe not. Um, but uh, so the guitar she was playing was actually a, an antique, like actually from the time period in the late 1800s, and the way it was supposed to go, like yeah, he's supposed to smash the guitar but the scene's supposed to cut, and then they switched the guitar. Um, I guess someone didn't tell kurt russell this, but or he forgot, or you know, or what I don't know. But so you could actually see jennifer jason lee break character during that scene because she's like hey, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, you know, when he smashes the guitar and she like even like looks, you know, not at the camera, but like, uh, like probably like the prop person or you know someone, terentino, I don't know, but you know you could tell like she's a little out of character, but I'm glad that they left it in because it still fits. But, um, yeah, just, oh, that that just sucks, you know, because it just destroyed this like artifact, you know, but it happens, you know. I mean like the value was definitely covered and everything, but you know, then now that's just gone forever.

Speaker 1: 34:07

But then, uh, chris goes and pours himself a cup of coffee but right before he takes a sip, uh, john ruth and ob start vomiting blood, just like projectile, like you know, it comes out like all over the table. And then, uh, you know, basically saved his life. And then, but you know, he's still like about to drink it. And then, but john ruth, like, as he's like dying, says, like the coffee, you know. And then so chris like pours it out real fast, um. And then, uh, as um, as john ruth is like vomiting blood, daisy like turns to him and like looks him in the face and smiles and says, when you get to hell, john, tell him daisy sent you. And then he punches her and they both like get knocked to the floor because they're still cuffed together or they're cuffed together again, um, and basically like wrestle is like wrestling with her, and he gets on top of her and like barf's blood like right on her face, and but then she, during this time, grabs his pistol and shoots him. So you know, I mean, I guess, puts him out of his misery, if you really think about it. But but then, uh, before she could shoot anyone else, uh, warren comes up, puts the gun to her head and is like give me the, give me the gun, or I'm gonna blow your brains out right here. Um, so she gives him the pistol and then he has everyone you know everyone but her, because she's cuffed to a dead body get up against the wall. And so they all go up to the wall and put their hands against the wall. And then, um, once they're all there, he has, uh, he has chris. He's like chris or manics, whatever, come over here. And uh, he's like take my pistol. And then he's like, well, pointed at them. And then, you know, he's all confused, like okay, like am I not in trouble too? And then he's like, uh, but yeah, he basically knows that, um, the reasoning is like hey, like someone poisoned that coffee, and I know it wasn't you, because you almost drank it. So, uh, you know, I just still don't like you, but I know you didn't poison the coffee, so I could at least trust you a little bit. But he's like hey, like someone poisoned the coffee. Obviously.

Speaker 1: 36:41

And there's a couple other things are kind of funny here because, like, I know that that's not minnie's stew. And he's like, and he says, like my mom, you know, made stew and like she, it always tasted the same, like you could just tell that it was her stew. And my uncle also made stew and you know, I also had that my whole life and, um, while they, like you know, they were both really good, I could always tell the difference, like you know. I could tell my uncle charlie stew and I could tell my mom stew, and he's like, even though it's been six months, I've since I've had minnie stew. I know for a fact that ain't minnie stew, so or no, that is minnie stew. Um, so if you say that minnie's been gone for a week, then why is her stew fresh like today? You know so, I know. So that means she made it this morning and that her and sweet dave are somewhere dead out back.

Speaker 1: 37:51

And then he goes over to uh, sweet dave's chair and you know, also points out that if he was going anywhere that he would have taken that chair with him and he lifts the uh blanket off of it and there's a blood stain, he's like, and that sweet dave's blood right there. So, but then, um, bob's like, because he's, you know, he's put, he's put most of this towards, towards bob, and because the bob's the one that said that he made the stew and like all that stuff, and he's like, he's like, well, he's like. You're throwing around a lot of accusations, but, but I couldn't have poisoned the coffee, because while it got poisoned I was over playing silent night said, says, uh, I know you didn't poison the coffee, but you're working with whoever did. And his final piece of evidence is that the uh like, if you've been working here then you would have known about the sign that used to hang over that on that wall right there and it used to say no dogs or mexicans allowed and um, and it hung up there until the day she took it down and the reason she took it down was because she started letting dogs in. Basically that minnie didn't like mexicans and there's no that, there's no reason why that's given um, but you know, and bob, being mexican, would mean that, like, there's no way that she would have hired him because she was racist against mexicans. So now that he's like, given all the evidence he needs in his eyes, he shoots bob and kills him right, right then and there shoots him to the ground and then goes over and blows his face off, basically, but now they're like okay, so who did poison the coffee? And chris like just already doesn't like joke age. So he's like, I know, I know, I know who did it. It was him like and uh, he. He admits he's like all right, fine, like I poisoned the coffee because I think he's gonna just start like shooting or whatever. So he admits to it, uh, uh.

Speaker 1: 40:03

After that, like right after that, the camera pans down through the floorboards and we see uh chanting tatum in the basement and he says, say bye to your huevos. And shoots a gun through the floor up at uh, major warren, shoots him right in the crotch, basically, and then he hits the floor. And then and this whole next part all happens in slow motion major warren hits the floor screaming in pain, uh, oswaldo pulls a gun out and shoots uh chris in the leg. Chris shoots uh oswaldo and he's on the floor now bleeding, and then it cuts to another chapter thing and then it just says that we get like a little card, just says earlier that day and, um, that's a stage coach, come in. So we see the stage coach arriving at minis.

Speaker 1: 41:06

Like I said earlier in the day, four guys get out. Uh, we recognize three of them as joe gauge, uh, oswaldo, mobri and bob. But then the fourth one, chanting tatum, we learn is named jody. And so the four of them arrive at minis. Uh, they're driven by a male and female stage coach driver team um minis there. Sweet davis there, her husband, uh, mini being a black woman, sweet dav, like an older white guy. There's another young black woman there, her name is jemma, um, I don't know. And then also another, uh, another worker there, I don't know if they say his name, but he's working outside.

Speaker 1: 41:54

So as they're inside, uh, being all like sweet and everything, um, uh, we see that uh, mobri and gauge like kind of wink at each other and like give like a little signal and then each of them asks, uh for candy. Um mobri, from jemma it says, hey, like you know, I heard like you're the best jelly bean salesman in wyome, or something like that, and uh asked for some jelly beans. And then, uh, joe gauge is talking to mini and asking about the? Um, they're like hard candy sticks basically, while uh, and then bob's over by um sweet dav who's playing chess with the general, who just was already there when they got there. Um, but after, uh, after they get their candy, or I think she's still up on the ladder getting the jelly beans, but um joe gauge gets his candy from mini, mini goes back and is talking to jody, who's being all like flirty and gentlemanly to her and everything.

Speaker 1: 43:06

Um, and then uh, joe gauge is talking to uh six horse judy, who's the, the woman who was uh driving the stagecoach, and uh, basically, while everyone's kind of talking to someone, uh they give the signal again and just start killing people. Uh, jody, uh channing tatum, he kills mini and the male stagecoach driver, uh bob kills sweet dav. Uh joe gauge kills judy and uh, uh oswaldo kills uh jemma, who's uh standing on the ladder holding the jelly bean jar and gets shot. And then the jelly beans go everywhere. So that's the, the missing jar and the jelly bean on the floor that uh warren noticed when he got there. So, yeah, they kill everybody except for the general who's still there.

Speaker 1: 44:11

And then they're kind of talking to each other like, okay, like, do we kill this guy? And uh, I think it's jody uh kind of sticks up for him, or maybe someone else does too. But uh, yeah, they like stick up for him because, um, they, it makes it seem more realistic if there's another person there. And so jody goes and talks to him and he's like, hey, like this is the deal. Uh, some guys come in with my sister and they're gonna hang her and we're gonna save her. So, like, if you have any problem with us stopping that, let me know. And he's like I don't care, I don't care about her, I don't care about you, I don't care about that guy. So just leave me out of it, and you know, and I'll stay out of it, you know, whatever. And so he's like all right, you know, I'll, uh, that's a good answer. So you can, you can live, you know, just keep your mouth shut and otherwise one of us will kill you, you know.

Speaker 1: 45:24

So they, uh, they spend like four hours, uh, just getting the place ready, you know, making it look like there's the one that are supposed to be there, and cleaning up all the blood and shit. Um, oh, yeah, because joe gauge also went outside and killed the, uh, the, the stable hand that was outside, uh, and he's like, oh man, like whatever problem you had with with them, like I just started working here, it's that. You know, I have nothing to do with it, but you know, these guys are just uh, ruthless killers, so it doesn't matter to them. You know, all they care about is their, uh, well, their sister and or friend, daisy. But, um, it's cool because then we get the, the scene where uh they first arrive, um, just from a different perspective, so we could see, uh this time, that what we couldn't see before, um is how, uh, they're kind of giving some signals to uh daisy. Daisy obviously recognizes all of them and then, but she's also letting them know because, uh, joe gauge is ready to shoot john roof right then and there, while he was like getting coffee, uh, and but daisy's like kind of, you know, lets it know, lets it be known that the new sheriff of red rock is here, plus this other bounty hunter, and so they're not alone. And you know, basically it's not going to be as simple as all that, so you need to be patient, uh.

Speaker 1: 47:14

So then we uh get back to where we uh left off, uh, in the, you know, in the present of the story, and major warren's on the floor screaming again in pain, and uh, then, uh, he gets up on the bed and, um, we see that, uh, you know, he's bleeding pretty bad. Uh, chris is bleeding pretty bad, but he's like walking around with a chair for a walker, basically. And uh, but he gets over to major warren's side and they both have their pistols drawn on the trap door to the basement and, uh, they're basically like telling uh, jody down there, it's like like, whoever you are, like um, it's like you, you know, come out a real uh, uh, blower head off, you know. And and he's like, all right, like I'm coming out. I was like, but don't come out, like too fast. You know, just, uh, toss your pistol, your weapon up first. And so he tossed uh. Or he's like, swings the door open. Uh, he swings the door open real fast.

Speaker 1: 48:29

Once they're like, uh, that they threaten to kill a sister, uh, so cellar door pops open, um, then they're like throw out your gun. And so he throws out one pistol. And they're like, uh, um. And then they're like whispering to each other, like, uh, he might have another pistol. They're like, throw out your other pistol. He's like I only got one pistol. And then uh, warren's like, well, you better shoot a pistol, because if you don't toss one out, then uh, then I'm gonna shoot her. And then, you know, here comes the second pistol. He's like, oh see, what did I tell you?

Speaker 1: 49:04

So then they tell him to come up, and he comes out with his hands up and he's sitting there and uh looks around and then he uh turns and sees, uh, his sister, daisy, and they smile at each other and you know call each other like sibling names and stuff like that and and as they're having this like sweet moment between like two murderers, uh, his head just explode, the back of his head just explodes, because warren is behind him and shot him in the head and so he and then falls back into the basement and then daisy's screaming and they're like why'd you do that? Like he was giving up. And he's like, oh, he took too long. And then, you know, he's just like. You know why, you know what reason do I have to like be nice to you at this point? You know, plus, he shot me in the nuts. You know I'm gonna let him get away with that.

Speaker 1: 50:07

So then, uh, joe gaige is still over against the wall and uh, he tells um, or warren tells him like hey, like why don't you sit at the table? Because he just wants everybody like in his, then their eyesight, you know. And um, I was walled, those like got back up onto one of the chairs, like he's still alive, you know just very much bleeding to death. And uh, so joe gaige sits down at the table or I think he asks like can I sit down. And he's like, yeah, sure, whatever. And so he goes and sits down. Oh yeah, and where he sits is, uh, where there is a hidden gun.

Speaker 1: 50:48

We saw, like during the montage of them getting ready after killing everybody, um, that one of them hit a gun under the table, so that way they would still have one once they've given up their guns. So then, um, daisy starts to uh try to uh negotiate with chris, saying like, hey, like we'll let you go and you can make a lot of money by you know taking the bounty for, uh, you know, bob over there and all that stuff. And he's like, oh, why would I do that? And then he's like, you're, like, we're, we're gang members, we're part of the jody domingray gang, and like he doesn't know who they are, but uh, warren does, and and he's like, oh yeah, he had like a $50,000 bounty and all the members had a $10,000 bounty, which explains why daisy had a $10,000 bounty. This is also where we find out, like the, the real names of a lot of these people, because you know, obviously they're just using pseudonyms and everything and pretending to be other people, uh, so, uh, oswaldo Moabry is actually, uh, english Pete Hickox. Uh, bob was actually Marco the Mexican and Joe Gage was actually, um, grouch Douglas, you know, and some of them had like bigger uh bounties than you know 10,000. So, uh, warren makes a point saying that, like, how are you gonna get money off of Bob? Like I blew his face off, like they're not going to know who that is. You know, this is obviously way before DNA Uh evidence became like uh usable or even like detectable.

Speaker 1: 52:46

And then, uh, she's trying to say that there's uh 15 other gang members waiting in Red Rock and if, if we don't show up, then they're told to kill everybody in the town and all that stuff. But they and the, the deal, you know, is like he gets to go free if he just kills, uh, major Warren, and just Warren, like at this point, shoots her in the foot just to like shut her up and everything. And you know she's just saying like, hey, like you know, the deal still stands, you just got to shoot him and uh. But then, when uh, so Warren shoots her in the foot, um, they uh go, uh, you know they try to go for him and uh, they end up shooting Pete and Grouch, you know, because Grouch, you know, reaches for the gun and everything and uh, but then Chris, just you know, continues to string her along. They, you know, after these other guys are dead, and then you know it finally just says no deal, you know I'm not, I'm not doing a deal with you. And then she's like you're going to regret this and that, basically, is like this whole thing is dependent on me believing that you have 15 men waiting in Red Rock. And I don't think you do, because there wouldn't be so much desperation here if there was like other people waiting. And she's like no, like you don't know what you're messing with.

Speaker 1: 54:19

Uh, my brother's got an army and then he's like bullshit, like my daddy ran an army, 400 men for a lost cause. And it's like I like this part because it's, you know, he's like showing, you know it's not just like pride. And my dad, like you know for, because he admits like that it was a lost cause, like, but you know, and all this stuff, I don't know. I thought that was an interesting wrinkle to it, but you know, it's like you know you don't know shit about an army. Like my dad ran an army. You know 400 men, like, and I know like you don't have like 15 guys out there.

Speaker 1: 55:04

But then, after, like he yells this at everything, he passes out in the middle of the room and it's. And then so Daisy is trying to get over to him to like grab his gun and uh, warren is stuck in the bed. Uh, you know, he can't move because he's bleeding out and he's just like yelling, like you know, like wake up, wake up. Like you know, wake up, white boy, you know all this stuff. And she's like desperately trying to get over there but she's still handcuffed to John Ruth. So she like gets to where she could get to like a uh, like, uh, either like a machete or like uh acts or something, I forget. And she just starts uh cutting, uh chopping his arm to where she could like pull, pull free. And now she's like got his arm like dangling from a handcuff and uh, trying to go for the gun.

Speaker 1: 56:03

But right when she gets like mobile, chris finally wakes up and shoots her and um, but not like dead, or like I think what is he? I think he shoots at her, but she doesn't, uh, like he doesn't kill her, right then. But um, uh, she's about, he's about to blow her head off. And Warren's like wait, wait, wait, don't, don't. It's like what do you mean? Don't shoot her. He's like why wouldn't I shoot her? He's like for John Ruth like you know, he died like to make sure, and you know he not only saved our lives from the blizzard, but, you know, uh, so we should like honor him by, you know, killing her the way that he wanted to and and basically like that shooting her was like too good for her and uh, so then, like, uh, it cuts to them, like uh, struggle into, like pull her up on a rope. She's got a new surround her neck and they're like got her like up around like the one of the beams in the ceiling.

Speaker 1: 57:12

And uh, chris is saying, as my first and last act of, uh, sheriff of Red Rock, I set in Sioux to death by hanging, and you know, and they're just like watching her die, laughing and smiling, and it's like it's pretty like without context, it's like real fucked up. But then it's like, well, she, she, you know, definitely deserves it. But um, well, you know, if, if the stories are to be believed, but uh, so then after she dies, then they're just kind of just lay in there bleeding out and dying together. Um, but then, like, uh, chris says like hey, like you still got that letter. And he's like, yeah, he's like, can I see it? And you know, warren like struggles to get the letter out and they, they both just like accepted that they're gonna die. And um, so he gets the letter out and uh, chris reads it out loud and uh, he gets to the part with the old Mary Todd is, uh is calling, so I got to go and he's like, man, that's a nice touch.

Speaker 1: 58:24

And then, uh, yeah, and just kind of like zooms out and it's like a weirdly beautiful poignant moment, uh, where two guys are bleeding out next to the hanging dead body of a woman and that they just executed, plus like five other dead bodies. So, yeah, then, uh, then it goes to credits and we get this like old uh country song and everything and that's the end of the movie. So, um, but uh, before like I wrap everything up, uh, I wanted to point out because I talked a little bit about it in the uh episode for the thing, how, uh, not only was their recycled score like unused stuff, for the thing that any a more Akona used for this, but a lot of the uh, um, like a lot of parallels in the story and everything too, because I mean a you know Kurt Russell and both the and the Amorakone score and both, uh, it's a bunch of people trapped in the snow, you don't know who to trust, and a lot of accusations and a lot of people end up dead and it ends with two guys dying who didn't really get along throughout the film but are now like in it together and uh, like kind of on the same team and dying together. You know, just like, at the end it was uh, uh, keith David and Kurt Russell, and then this one, it's uh Walton Goggins and uh, samuel Jackson. Um, I mean, you can even go as far to be like, oh, one white guy, one black guy I don't know if that's like you know was on purpose, you know who, with Tarantino, who knows it could have been but, um, yeah, uh, I feel like there's a couple of other ones too.

Speaker 1: 1:00:30

But, yeah, I've loved this movie. I got to see it, uh, when it came out in the uh special, uh, 70 millimeter screening, so I got to see it with an intermission and it was the extended version, uh, which is the version that's on Netflix, but the way that that it's done on Netflix is broken up into four episodes, like it's a mini series which is easier for people to watch. You know, like, if they did shit like that with, uh, like you know, this year we had Oppenheimer and killers of the flower moon, both over three hours long, uh, but you know some people can't get over that hump. I've never had a problem with the length of a movie like that. Like, I mean a little when we're talking about going to see it in the movies, that's one thing, but but like, when it comes to being at home, like who gives a shit? You know you're going to sit there, watch a whole season of a series, but you can't watch a three hour movie. You know that's just me, but you know I got. I know people have like ADHD and you know can't sit still or don't have attention spans, and you know it's just not for everybody. Everyone's different, so no judgment there. But I know there's a lot of people who make excuses that are very contradictory to their actions. But yeah, I got to see it in 70 millimeter. Uh, it had the intermission. Um, I wish I could. Uh, I have like a little like program that came with it too, which was always always like the real cool thing about going to see stuff in 70 millimeter, because they make it like a whole big event and you get a program and all that.

Speaker 1: 1:02:03

I have it somewhere along with a Phantom Thread one. I don't know if I talked about it in the Phantom Thread episode, but uh, yeah, this is I think the first Tarantino film that I saw in theaters. I'd say like it won't be the last, but he's only done one since then and he's only doing one more. So you know, but I'll try to see the other ones because you know a lot of theaters will do like screenings of older movies and everything. So it'd be cool to go see uh like Pulp Fiction and shit like that. Um especially, it would be cool to go see something at the New Beverly and uh, la, because he owns that Um, and then he just he just bought another one too, I forget which one, maybe the Arrow, but it might be a different one, um, but yeah, a great movie.

Speaker 1: 1:02:53

Um, I know it's like one of his more divisive ones. There's a lot of people that really don't like this one, but I've always been a big fan of it and I think, um, but I just like a, a who done it or a mystery, and you know, and this is, it's one of those and, uh, it's just really fun. Uh, great performances from everybody and, uh, I just find something like new every time that I enjoy from it. But, uh, great movie, uh and uh. So, yeah, that's that's it for that series.

Speaker 1: 1:03:29

Like I said, I was going to do one more because there is another Tuesday this month, but I'm going to do, uh, my Oscar episode. Uh, for the last, uh episode of January, because the nominations come out tomorrow. So next week, stay tuned for an episode about that. I'll go through all the nominations and talk about which ones I've seen and my feelings on them, and you know all that stuff. So, uh, if you're weird, like me, you'll find it entertaining, and if you're normal, then maybe that's the one you skip. But hey, uh, thanks for watching, thanks for listening. Uh, please remember to like and subscribe or rate and review, whichever applies to the platform you're consuming this content on and I'll see you guys next week. Thanks Bye.